Putin Fails the 9/11 Litmus Test

Posted on Updated on

Putin is climbing the walls to be number 1 at a  pro-Kremlin youth group gathering. Politically oriented youth groups seem to very popular these days.  

The war of words between Russia and the U.S. takes a twist.

The same old zionists and war whores in the Senate, featuring Lieberman and McCain, want a law passed that criticizes Russia’s practice of human rights. The hypocrisy is a cliche. 

Besides threatening to stop ‘helping’ to reign in Iran and to prevent shipment of supplies to Afghanistan, Putin also blasts out at the U.S. financial debacle.

“They are living beyond their means and shifting a part of the weight of their problems to the world economy.”  “They are living like parasites off the global economy and their monopoly of the dollar.” 

But a funny thing happened on the way to the shouting match. Putin becomes a gatekeeper for the global mafia and disavows the concept that 9/11 was a false flag.

Claims that the terror attacks of September 11, 2001 were orchestrated by US intelligence agencies are “complete nonsense,” Prime Minister Vladimir Putin told attendees of a youth forum.

­“This is complete nonsense, it is impossible,” Putin said on Monday, responding to a question posed by an attendee of the Seliger 2011 youth forum.

“To imagine that US intelligence services did it deliberately, with their own hands, is complete nonsense,” the prime minister said. “Only people who do not understand the workings of security agencies can say that. It would be impossible to conceal it.”

Putin added that he could not imagine how “any of the current or former US leaders could have such an idea.”

Unless Putin had his tongue firmly planted in cheek, this doesn’t sit well for some of us who had a faint vague cross-eyed hope that he might be someone who mattered. Not quite the Ahmadinejad moment we would have hoped for. Some may say Putin is playing it close to the vest and holding his aces for later but I don’t know.

Of course Putin would be shy about accusing the U.S. or Israel of a false flag.  Russia has had its fair share of ‘inside jobs’ and ‘holocausts.’  No need to stir up that black cauldron.

He was correct  in saying  “It would be impossible to conceal it.” 9/11 wasn’t concealed. Millions of people know basically the hows, the whys and the whos and it wasn’t Arabs. Controlling the media and the investigations, etc. only prevents the prosecutions and that’s exactly how Putin wants to run his own country … and does.  .

“Happy 9/11 Tenth Anniversary Vladimir.” You serve the cover up and your money masters well.

103 thoughts on “Putin Fails the 9/11 Litmus Test

    stans said:
    August 3, 2011 at 12:17 am

    Of course no government wants its citizens to question "the official version" of anything. Thats because they all use the same techniques in controlling their domestic populations. Machiavelli is the norm, not the exception, and creating useful enemies is a tried and true practice among all the world intelligence agencies.

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 12:34 am

    stans and kenny are correct, Putin has his own false flags and hes not about to talk about other false flags for fear of his own involvement coming to light. Notice how one of the only world leaders(puppet or otherwise) to question 9/11 has been Ahmadinejad. The reason for this is obvious-Iran is next on the zionist/neocon hit list and they know it so they let the Prez speak some truth from time to time. Notice that most of Ahmadinejads 9/11 comments come when the heat is getting turned up by the US/Israel. Talking honestly about 9/11 is Irans way of saying-"back the fuck off" to the US/Israel. Its international politics. And Putin is playing his role with his lies about 9/11.

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 12:35 am

    Testing.

    A. Peasant said:
    August 3, 2011 at 1:03 am

    ugh, man. this is not good news. however:"To imagine that US intelligence services did it deliberately, with their own hands, is complete nonsense," the prime minister said. “Only people who do not understand the workings of security agencies can say that. It would be impossible to conceal it.”"the 'with their own hands' stands out to me. another way to read it is he's saying there were other hands involved. in which case, he further states that is how intelligence agencies work — they infiltrate and destroy from within. which is all true.putin chooses his words carefully. i will give him that. he's no imbecile like gwb.so maybe not as bad as it seems at first glance. or maybe i should start drinking vodka straight up.

    kenny's sideshow said:
    August 3, 2011 at 1:06 am

    stans and anon, good additions to the 'tales of Putin' and the control all the 'major' leaders are tasked with.

    kenny's sideshow said:
    August 3, 2011 at 1:13 am

    Pez, the vodka sounds good right about now and I very rarely drink it. You could be right, maybe he's playing with words. We'll see … maybe?

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 1:14 am

    Off topic(well,its 9/11 related)but this is the first I'm hearing about this:Late on the night of August 23, 2001, at about 3 a.m. security cameras in the parking garage of the World Trade Center captured the arrival of two or three truck vans.Visual examination determined the vans were separate and unique from trucks used by janitorial services, including different colors and devoid of markings. More curious, all the janitorial trucks had pulled out of the Towers by about 2:30 a.m—about half an hour before the second set of vans arrived.According to my high level State Department source with a top security clearance, who disclosed the unusual nightly activity, no vans matching that description had entered the World Trade Center at such an hour in any of the weeks or months prior to that date. It was a unique event. The vans appeared at the World Trade Center from approximately August 23, 2001 until September 3 or 4, 2001. After that last night, they never appeared at the Towers again.http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2011/08/02/the-missing-security-tapes-for-the-worldI don't trust Lindauer,she spends waaaay too much time talking about the "hijackers" and "al qaeda" but this is an interesting development if true.

    kenny's sideshow said:
    August 3, 2011 at 1:24 am

    anon, I saw the article. The van story is plausible but I'm wary of Lindauer for some of the same reasons you mentioned. Some of the commenters at VT are calling her out as well as in she made a deal to get out of prison and the charges against her by becoming a controlled opposition limited hangout.

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 1:55 am

    Yes, I strongly suspect that Lindauer is not telling the whole truth and knows more(or less depending on her true purpose) than she lets on. And some of her past articles have contained blatant disinfo in my opinion. In the case of this "source" of hers who told her about the vans, I wonder if he even exists. The story,if true, would be potentially explosive, pardon the pun. Conveniently enough he won't come forward for fear of retribution. Lindauer comes off as another Sibel Edmonds type to me. Controlled opposition meant to sustain the "al qaeda muslim hijackers" myth,even among so called "9/11 truthers". In fact in Lindauers scenario its perfectly plausable(to morons who still buy the official 9/11 story) that "al qaeda" wired the buildings. Funny how she refuses to speculate on just who wired the buildings when we all know where that trail leads.

    kenny's sideshow said:
    August 3, 2011 at 2:23 am

    Lindauer also said, several of her posts back, that she would would be exposing the Israel/Mossad angle. As of now that's MIA. Winter Patriot is back with a good overview of the Norway event and takes on some of the alternative media's gatekeepers.http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2011/08/norways-911-horror-is-in-message.html

    kenny's sideshow said:
    August 3, 2011 at 2:51 am

    Depravity …9-11 Cartoon for kids from Mike Huckabee $9.95 http://youtu.be/D9vNsYQ5rLkFor profit just like the Holocosthttp://factsnotfairies.blogspot.com/2011/08/huckabee-releases-cartoon-video-on-911.html

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 5:24 am

    Putin said "US intelligence services" weren't the perps.The Mossad is not a US intelligence service.Perhaps this is Putin's way of indicating that Israel did indeed do it.

    JackieG said:
    August 3, 2011 at 5:35 am

    Putin is quite possibly correct.Whoever asked the question should have asked Putin if Israel did 911Everyone knows Israel did 911.Including Putin

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 6:02 am
    Anaughty Mouser said:
    August 3, 2011 at 6:15 am

    Putin denies American secret service involvement in 9/11. FAILR.Paul states israel is a good friend of USA. FAILA.Jones states israel had nothing to do with 9/11. FAILM.Rivero states a plane hit the pentagon. FAILR.Dawson states a plane hit the pentagon. FAILA.Lawson states there was no video fakery involved in 9/11. FAILAnybody left besides L.Visible, Kenny, Aangirfan, Veritas, J.Friend and K.Bacon?P.S. Why am I in this handbasket and where are we going?Mouser

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 6:24 am

    G.Bacon as in Greg.Sorry.Mouser

    John Friend said:
    August 3, 2011 at 6:50 am

    Putin definitely chose his words wisely. "Claims that the terror attacks of September 11, 2001 were orchestrated by US intelligence agencies are "complete nonsense," Prime Minister Vladimir Putin told attendees of a youth forum."From what I can tell, Mossad and it's agents (including the Zionist dual citizens in the Bush administration) orchestrated 9/11, while US officials, military, private actors (Silverstein, Lowy, Eisenberg, ect.) and media facilitated, covered up and spun the event. Technically, he didn't rule out this scenario. Now we just need him to say what he definitely knows about 9/11…Will some one out there in the limelight say something about this? Come on already!

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 6:53 am

    I did forget a few others; including Saladin, Timster, K.Boyle, Noor and L.Luck.Mouser

    John Friend said:
    August 3, 2011 at 6:57 am

    Very good points Mouser, Anthony Lawson's rebuttal to Jim Fetzer's research into video fakery is absolutely pathetic, and he normally does great work. I'm still waiting for Lindauer (and Sibel Edmonds) to expose the Zionists as the main conspirators behind 9/11 as well. We'll see if that ever happens….She has put out some good info, including the latest about the vans at the WTC (which I buy). The Israeli art student spy ring is heavily implicated in 9/11, particularly because one of the cells had operations in the WTC right before hand! Were these trucks a part of their operation?

    Greg Bacon said:
    August 3, 2011 at 9:27 am

    Putin added that he could not imagine how "any of the current or former US leaders could have such an idea.Wonder what made Putin $ay $uch an ab$surd $tatement?Putin ha$ hi$ hand$ $tained with the blood of FALSE FLAGS he's pulled off inside Russia and Chechnya, so he's not going to rock the boat. He's addicted to power and will need help running again for Russian PM, so what country has the best vote riggers?Forget 'ZOG," Zionist Occupied Government, it's now 'Zionist Occupied Globe.'

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    It's going badly for the zionist NWO Rothschild regime. – "Damn that internet!"Here's what the next global move may well be:False flag, psy-op blamed on the 9/11 truth movement leading to the necessary implementation of marshall law in USA with direct spreading to Canada, England, Australia and Europe.The assassination of president Obama with "undiputable" links to the 9/11 truth movement requiring marshall law. Any one linked to the 9/11 truth movement can be incarcerated without trial or jury.Of course it will not be 9/11 truth and peace activists who "kill" Obama – actually he will just 'retire' alive somewhere in S.America (Patagonia?). But the fix will be in so anyone telling the truth will be automatically arrested and imprisoned with out any due procees.Two (three?) birds with one stone. Marshall law implemented, 9/11 truthers silenced, Barry Soetoro retired.It will be just as fake as WTC7 falling down on 9/11 – never even hit by a plane.

    JamesLaffrey said:
    August 3, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Good stuff, Kenny.That youth group, by the way, looks like a typical jew-established action/propaganda group. Nashi. When I saw that Putin-Nashi story a day or two ago, I did some searching and found evidence to support my suspicion. Even wikiJEWpedia offers a description of Nashi that supports my point, if read carefully. Putin supported the founding of the group.Since I, for the EqualPartyUSA, don't have a publicist nor paid commenters, I guess I need to do a little of it myself here. (Yes, it's great that you, Kenny, have a link to us.) It's interesting that the groups of commenters that overlap on various websites we all read are consistent in failing to mention the EqualPartyUSA or me when listing sites who are already on the right side of issues. 9/11, for example. And on Putin, I made clear last year that he is a puppet of the Rothschild-jew network, as are they all, including Ahmadinejad. Leaders who really think they run their own countries, such as the many Polish leaders aboard the doomed plane in Russia last year, meet premature deaths. The puppets who simply need to be retired and replaced get to keep living, despite "wars" against them, such as Gaddafi in Libya and Mubarek in Egypt. Thus, it's predicatable that if there's a war on Iran soon, Ahmadinejad will survive it.The World Order is not new. It has been in place since before we (I'm 53) were born. Eustace Mullins didn't write "The New World Order." He wrote "The World Order." No "New," because it wasn't new. Done deal. What the Rothschild-jew network (not "all" jews but a giant subset) is doing now is continuing to slaughter nonjews while they continue consolidating power, which has an ongoing aspect to it because as decades pass, important young people grow up ignorant of who's the Boss and have to continually be assimilated, bought, or otherwise neutralized in some way.

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    i would add to mousers listdavid ray griffen-shills for one world gov. ignores actors, vicsims, cgi, msm corbett report-discounts media fakery and vicsims and all 'no plane theory'i'm also suspicious that peter jennings was murdered, no proof, just a gut feeling.his demeanor on 911, when interviewing lying 'survivors' says a lot

    anon 1 said:
    August 3, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    david ray griffen. ?????

    0088 said:
    August 3, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    which again and again proves exactly WHO that Kremlin ratnest bastard Putino is… Peterburg's Terminator only poses as ex-KGB agent, in fact he was re-recruited long time ago and serves as a smart efective mole to provide foreign policy and agenda within Russia, including Lubavitcher interests… He practically brought Gorby-Yeltzyn's misdeeds to logical end- Russia is at the edge of (planned) annihilation… Putin realized long-coveted dream of the State Dept- to transform KGB into CIA outlet…http://www.lulu.com/content/771513

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Mullins says Bolshevism was created by the British secret serviceMullins says CIA is controlled by British secret serviceThe crown and Rothschild created Israel.Conclusion- Britain and the Crown and British secret service is behind 911.Joan Veon says that the UN is a new face on British Imperialism.There is one world government now, controlled by UN, IMF World Bank911 was a bank jobwho's the worlds biggest banker ?Israel did 911. I think they are the service provider. The client?Rothschild-Rockefeller.

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    griffin the shill-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TZypcH9eg

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    I count the "no-planers" or CGI people among the shills myself so that doesn't disqualify Griffin in my eyes.

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    I count the "no-planers" or CGI people among the shills myself so that doesn't disqualify Griffin in my eyes.—if griffin doesn't address these aspects, he doesn't have to debunk them- convenient because he cant.if the planes were real they wouldn't need actors (harley guy, gary welz etc) its either planes or actors, you can't have both

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    John Friend I agree with you, Putin never said it wasn't the Mossad and friends behind it. I don't know why he said it but could be with an election coming up he wants to focus on that solely. Perhaps throwing a good will gesture to the overwhelming number of american officers and section of the intelligence agencies he knows were taken by surprise with events. Who knows? He never said Arabs in a cave did it either. One reason I gave up blogging was in part due to the feeling I was talking to myself many times. Sometimes a few comments on blog take a life of their own, such as Japan was haarped, Putin running false flags etc etc. Haarp is a powerful weapon but it doesn't mean it was used every time Putin farts. Electronic signatures reach into the stratosphere every time there is a major quake.This is a proven fact and haarp isn't needed. Japan held a U.S. sub base in an area where america is at war, they make digital angel chips and spy technology for computers and engage in genetic research for the NWO. So what is next haarping the American defense industry? Makes about as much sense. There is no proof Putin staged managed any false flags in Russia other than someone saw it in an internet comment. I won't ask anyone for proof because there is none. Putin revived the Russian economy, defense industry, oil sector, gold sector and many other areas and put the mafia in jail and the FSB back in charge. There would be no Russia today without him. The best the proponents of a dead Russia can come up with is Putin is part of the mafia. Bullshit!He separated Abkhazia from the Israeli state of Georgia because he is part of the NWO right? I know ten year olds who wouldn't believe this. He builds a power plant in Iran because he is working for Rothschild right? He disarms terrorists in Moscow and frees the people because he is NWO right? Wrong he blows up Sayanim in Chechnya and other places because they are attacking Russia. It is just that simply and long pointed out by credible people who have done the research on it. I am waiting breathlessly for some info pointing to Putin on this. You would think he would be pushing to dismantle the Norway/Russia oil and gas treaty which cements the Baring Sea for these two nations instead of pushing ahead with it. The 13% of world wide oil would guarantee U.N. supremacy. If he cements Norway, Finland, Russia all the way to Iceland, the game is over and Russia has offered Iceland loans break free of the IMF in the past. That is a strange way for a man to act as a puppet! Dublinmick

    neal said:
    August 3, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Putin is talking around something so strange, unsettling, and unbelievable, that only those who have been in those places can read between the lines.If you deal with the NSA, OSI, or CIA long enough, you will eventually meet some strange characters that drive big black cars, but they are not really cars, or drivers- they do, however, make policy, and call the shots, and there is never any choice in the matter, regardless of any multi-intelligence agency take on geopolitical blowback.Putin may be in that place where orders are executed, resistance is coded, and will maybe end up a mad prophet, if he is careful.There's not a lot of options in this business.

    Anonymous said:
    August 3, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    The Russian central bank is just that a Russian central bank under Russian control and Rothschild has been allowed to own some stock in the Chinese bank but not controlling interest. Russia and China is pushing for the death of the dollar. This is not the actions of puppets. They are both just players in the great game or it would be over by now. http://www.analysis-news.com/Gdetailfolder/Goldsmiths-182.htm"Something big is going on in international finance as this Goldsmiths will explain. In the way of a backdrop, it must be said that several non-Rothschild controlled nations–like China, Russia, Iran and Venezuela–started a cry for a new monetary system back in 2008 and early 2009. It seems that they did not like one of the weakest currencies in the world, the US dollar, being used by the Rothschild-US team to buy goods and influence international politics worldwide just because the dollar was the so-called international reserve currency. "http://www.gwu.edu/~ieresgwu/assets/docs/ponars/pm_0349.pdfhttp://www.cbr.ru/eng/today/history/central_bank.aspDub

    kenny's sideshow said:
    August 3, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Interesting comments and links from all. Thanks.Since there's not a consensus on Putin then I guess we'll have to keep watching.

    Anonymous said:
    August 4, 2011 at 12:38 am

    What prompted this answer from Putin? Did one of the kids or a journalist ask him directly about 9/11?

    Anonymous said:
    August 4, 2011 at 2:45 am

    Hi Kenny,Do you know where my big comment went that I submitted about 11 hours ago (maybe noon EST USA)? Did the system put it in the trash again?It was about the youth group Nashi. And it talked about my positions on 9/11, Putin, Ahmedinejad, Gadaffi, Mubarek. And it made a prediction.Sincerely,James Laffrey=PartyUSA.org

    Anonymous said:
    August 4, 2011 at 3:06 am

    I am very perplexed how anyone would think Russia would not be under the Roth cartel absent Putin. It is obvious Yeltsin managed a political play. Putin managed to keep himself in good stead with Berovsky. However as soon as he became prime minister he turned on his handler, jailed Kordokovsky and Berovsky fled to EnglandThere were at least six attempts on his life I can recall. Gazprom would have been long ago sold to BP or Royal Dutch Shell had he not been on the scene, Russia would have a central bank under the control of London center, forests and mines would now be churning out raw materials for foreign owned companies and gold would also be heading for the London vaults not Moscow. Russia is loaded with gold by the way and they are stacking it up now selling it abroad. One story I read was how the Russians and chinese had experts working together somewhere in Siberia pooling efforts on satelite kill systems. They have also said there is not going to be a U.N. resolution on Syria where Russia has a nuclear armed submarine sitting in the harbor. They sound serious over there to me. Putin has also been very hands on in restoring the Orthodox Russian Church to the consternation of the Vatican. The Russian church let me remind is the same one who proclaimed Tsar Ivan the terrible as God's representative on earth and not Rome. Another reason why sometimes Vlad is referred to as the Tsar. You might recall after the gang shot up the school in Russia Putin commented "we will bomb them in their shit houses.!" end of quote. It does seem that he has softened his wild west approach lately however since he is behind the scenes and not out front. We do know that Russia has bought some 30 percent of BP stock. Perhaps he is taking a cue from the Chinese and just standing by watching the west destroy itself. Dublinmick

    Anonymous said:
    August 4, 2011 at 5:52 am

    Kenny,I am unable to comment as Mouser or as Anonymous from my personal computer at as of ca 12 noon yesterday. As you can see I am still able to comment from my computer at work.Has my lap-top been "banned" in some way by Kenny's Sideshow or is this the work of zio-ogre?Just asking.Anaughty Mouser

    A.Mouser said:
    August 4, 2011 at 6:00 am

    The "banning" of the ability to comment from my pc occurred ca 45 minutes after my Anonymous post about the possible 'assassination' of president Obama by the zionist NWO Rothschild regime as the next global move.Poof! Just like that no can comment!Hmmmm. Am I guessing too well for TPTB?Free speech? Pffft! That's just a ruse!Mouser

    Anonymous said:
    August 4, 2011 at 6:17 am

    Cannibal Rabbi is a Jewish activist.

    Anonymous said:
    August 4, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Found a work-a-round I think (grin).Cheers, Mouser

    Anonymous said:
    August 4, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Canibal Rabbi is a piece of shit hasbara in not so good a disguise.

    kenny's sideshow said:
    August 4, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    James, your comment went to the spam and I didn't catch it. Sorry.As far as other comments not showing up, I don't have a clue about what may be happening. I don't even know how to block IP's so it's not from my end. I hope it's as simple as blogger does not work right all the time, both in posting and in the comments.

    Anonymous said:
    August 4, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Blogger seems to be fucking up bad today. Revelations is down right now.

    w said:
    August 4, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    It's interesting to see so many arguments for and against Putin/Russia. Those for obviously still cling to the idea or at least hope that Russia represent some obstacle to the zionist/US agendas. A quick look back at recent (or not so recent history) will prove the exact contrary. Russia was the first country in the world to recognize israel. Russia was also the first country to populate the stolen land of Palestine (Over 50% of pop. are Russian Khazars.) During all the M. Eastern wars with israel, Russia refused to supply Egypt, Syria, etc, with Russian spare parts in their hour of need. (Remember Communist Russia was supposed to be the enemy of USA then.) We notice also that every time there's going to be some war against any arab country, Russia starts barking but at the last minute, they join the club at the UN vote (happened twice against Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and now with long time friend Syria) I urge people to borrow am old book from their library called 'Vodka Cola' that proves the fallacy of this supposed enmity between US and Russia or Zionism and Russia. It also proves the 'Bay of pigs' as well as the whole 'Cold War 'were a hoax. Mullins confirms this in his little book "The $5 Trillion Cold War Hoax" (http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2009/02/5-trillion-cold-war-hoax.html.) Here's something else that might open a few eyes: The Secret Masonic Archives! (http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2008/02/architects-of-deception-part-xv.html) As for Putin and his remark about 9/11 I offer the following "Proofs":1. Russia's Putin has helped the US and Nato in their fake war on terror from day one and continues today to Supply the Jew World Order troops with Troop Transport, Supply and Food Transport, etc..2. Russia, israel, UK, France, Germany… had prior knowledge of 9/11 attacks and warned (wink) the USA3. All the above cited countries cited are heavily involved in the 9/11 attacks. I mean the ruling elites of those countries of course. They all belong to the Zionist freemasonic order, the "Knights of Malta" of which Putin is a member. All the Directors of the Secret Services of the New World Order are "Knights of Malta." Putin was Head of KGB and a "Knights of Malta." 4. The ideology of rule by the house of Zion (Rothchilds) had proved triumphant. They had freed themselves from Pharaoh and stolen HIS secret of power—that is to say—the pyramid. The rabbi's son, Lenin, lies entombed in his pyramid and symbolically controls the power system of the soviet-block. Lincoln is honoured by a statue where he is seated on a Throne of David' but more astonishing we find Mao Tse Tung enthroned on an identical throne in Peking, China! I am afraid Greg bacon is right when he says5. it's now 'Zionist Occupied Globe.'

    Anon said:
    August 4, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    So, Putin is one of the bad guys, it seems.- Aangirfan

    Richard said:
    August 4, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    Interesting discussion. As to whether Putin is a good or bad guy, I don't know the answer to that, but Kenny I think you put it well when you noted that a lot of people had hoped he "might be someone who mattered." I think it's very much a sign of the times we're living in when we see that, one by one, almost all the "people who mattered" are turning out to have feet of clay.

    Anonymous said:
    August 4, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    one more addition to the 911 FAIL listRichard Gage-A one trick pony."It looks like a controlled demolition to me"Thanks for that Richard.Let's see- 70% of the general public agree, so he is stating the obvious.He refuses to ever venture into the 'forbidden zone' and ask the politically incorrect question- 'who'?Personally I don't care too much about 'how', ask Controlled Demolitions Inc., they were there, they did it. his goal? a never ending investigation

    Anonymous said:
    August 4, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    When Smolensk happened, my first thought was 'bank job', maybe Mossad did it, on behalf of Rothschild. It seem that the majority of Poles think that Russia did it. Russians are highly experienced in Illuminati 'wet work'

    Anonymous said:
    August 4, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    "maybe Mossad did it, on behalf of Rothschild."Well, that would be a long list…including:JFK assassinationRFK assassinationIsraeli president assassinationOlof Palme assassination9/11 attack7/7 attackSpain attackBali attackAnna Lindh assassinationNorway attacketc.

    kenny's sideshow said:
    August 5, 2011 at 12:12 am

    w, good concise analysis. Richard, thanks for the input.w and james and dub could have an interesting debate on Putin but since we're all on the same side with what really counts, it might not be productive at this time.anon @ 12:56 PM, I think you pegged Gage with the idea of a never ending investigation. I took a look at the Fetzer vs Lawson tit for tat at VT and think maybe they are playing the same game. I'll venture to guess that few have wanted to know since the day of 9/11 any more than I the hows of what happened. I'll always want to know but I don't want to debate it forever. I want the whos to pay.

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Fetzer is certainly a mole.

    musique said:
    August 5, 2011 at 1:51 am

    I am adding DBS(Daryl Bradford Smith) on that list. I've stopped listening to him long time ago, he is good enough to turn anyone into a severe depressive & paranoid basket case like himself. Mohammad Rafeeq (sp?) is questionable as well. Really liking W's explanation.

    John Friend said:
    August 5, 2011 at 2:08 am

    First off, w is spot on as usual in his analysis. Second thing, I totally disagree with musique above. I think Daryl does phenomenal work, and has assembled an abundant amount of information for anyone to really learn what's going on in this world, and who's doing it. I'm not willing to speculate on his private/personal life. The man does great work, let's be serious here. Third thing, I am going to post a comment I just submitted to Veterans Today about Fetzer's latest article thoroughly disputing Mr. Tony Lawson's very weak attempt to refute Fetzer's no-planes theory and video/media fakery evidence . I'd like to see what others have to say.

    John Friend said:
    August 5, 2011 at 2:10 am

    What I posted at VT:For some reason, my last comment was not published…..I'll try to re-do it here. First off, thank you Dr. Fetzer for tackling this very complex and controversial subject. We do need the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and we need our brightest, most experienced, and critical minds to explore these subjects. So I'm very grateful for your work, and Dr. Judy Wood's work, amongst other researchers. Guys like Dean Hartwell, Phil Jayhan, Larry McWilliams and Killtown are some of the best researchers in my opinion, yet they get absolutely no coverage about their findings, which tend to support Dr. Fetzer's contentions here. Second off, we know the prime conspirators behind 9/11. They happened to be the only people arrested on 9/11 in connection with the attacks. Israel's Mossad was certainly the prime conspirator, along with it's network of agents, puppets and assets that had (and continue to have) control over the US government, in particular in the Bush administration. Virtually all of the neo-con Zionists in the Bush administration were Jews with ties directly to Israel and Israeli intelligence. And we know, through history and current events, that Israel's standard operating procedure is conducting false flag attacks and blaming it on Arabs or Muslims generally. The Mossad/Israeli intelligence, the Zionist dual citizens in the US government, the Jewish owned and operated media and criminal elements in the military are certainly responsible for carrying out 9/11. More than likely, they were facilitated by other foreign/private actors and intelligence agencies. As for Jim's work on video fakery and no planes, consider these points: 1. There is a history of video fakery, especially when it comes to black ops/false flag. The best example of this is the Zapruder film, which has been exposed as a fraud, a hoax. The film was altered/manipulated, and Dr. Fetzer and John Costella have proven this fact. http://assassinationscience.com/johncostella/ So we know this type of stuff has happened, and likely continues to happen, especially with 9/11. 2. We know for absolute certain that the entire official government/media conspiracy theory explaining what happened on 9/11 is a complete and utter fraud, including the Arab hijackers and airplanes, the phone calls, and even many of the victims and their families. Marc Bingham comes to mind, as does Barbara Olsen. Take a look at what Phil Jayhan and Larry McWilliams have discovered in their investigation into 9/11. Google "Lets Roll 911," to find their forum. Dr. Fetzer has two great interviews with them over at radiofetzer.blogspot.com. I find their research and perspective quite intriguing and well thought out. They've pointed out two important things about 9/11: 1) Many of the victims, passengers, and their families are hoaxes and 2) the WTC buildings were not built or constructed as many think they were. For instance, they contend that the buildings were never actually completed during construction, and that they were being systematically cleared out once Lucky Larry Silverstein and his Zionist gang bought the WTC complex. 3. Take a good hard look at Dean Hartwell's research about the phantom flights and the fake hijackings on 9/11. http://deanhartwell.weebly.com/deans-911-theory.html (continued below)…

    John Friend said:
    August 5, 2011 at 2:10 am

    (continued from above)…4. Finally, the most important aspect to bring up here, which was initially pointed out by the blogger Killtown who has done absolutely rock solid research into 9/11, is the fact that private sector companies have partnered with the military to develop technology that can alter live television feeds. This is an extremely valuable and powerful weapon in psychological/information warfare, and it was clearly at play on 9/11. Here is a brief excerpt from the Independent in the UK from an article titled, "When TV brings you the news as it didn't happen," which was written in 2000: "Viewers tuning into American broadcaster CBS's recent news coverage of the millennium celebrations in New York witnessed a televisual sleight of hand which enabled CBS to alter the reality of what they saw. Using "virtual imaging" technology, the broadcaster seamlessly adjusted live video images to include an apparently real promotion for itself in Times Square. The move has sparked debate about the ethics of using advances in broadcast technology to alter reality without telling viewers that what they are seeing isn't really there. While it's little surprise that advances in TV technology enable broadcasters to better manipulate existing images and create new ones, what is surprising is that this was done during a live broadcast and in a news programme. The CBS evening news coverage involved replacing the logo of rival network NBC with the CBS logo on a large video screen in Times Square. NBC was "outraged" by the use of the technology, and even CBS's evening news presenter, Dan Rather, admitted it was a "mistake". The technology to do this comes from the defence industry where, following the end of the Cold War, a number of companies have developed new ways of commercially exploiting their military navigation and tracking expertise. The system CBS used was developed by a United States company called Princeton Video Images (PVI). Other players in this field include Symah Vision – part of French defence to media group Lagadere; Israel-based Orad Hi Tech Systems, and SciDex, another Israeli firm with offices in Europe and the US. Each system, while similar, has its differences. None of the companies will publicly discuss how their's works. But the principle is common: each alters the live video image in the split second before it is broadcast." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/when-tv-brings-you-the-news-as-it-didnt-happen-728236.html See here also: http://www.iwar.org.uk/iwar/resources/airchronicles/stein.htm _________________________ I don't know why Dr. Fetzer hasn't brought up these facts, but they definitely support his perspective. I'd love to hear from Mr. Lawson about the points I just made here. Let's be reasonable, honorable men and women here, and engage in serious discussion about these subjects, not get in childish screaming matches and baseless ad hominem attacks, like virtually everyone on this thread has done. Thanks again Dr. Fetzer, you are truly an inspiration for those of us out here that still have the capability to think critically and rationally about the most important matters facing us today, in particular 9/11. Keep up the great work!

    JamesLaffrey said:
    August 5, 2011 at 3:01 am

    Kenny,Congratulations. What you have here is a fine thread of comments. There's some debate, and excellent info along with links.I agree with you that the how is interesting but secondary, and we want to bring justice down on the Rothschild-jew network who did 9/11, and so many more atrocities.But I'd like to single out one for honorable mention: the comment by "w".Be proud of having a blog that attracts and facilitates good discussion.(I'm sending this comment with my real name and URL on top as a test of whether it'll get spammed again. If so, we'll have evidence of a pattern.)

    Greg Bacon said:
    August 5, 2011 at 4:49 am

    It's good that each day, more 9/11 TRUTH is getting out to the public and more are doubting the lies told by our corrupted, out of control dictators that run this country. No, we no longer have a democratic republic, 9/11 was the 'Coup d'e tat' that took away what little freedom we had, under the guise of keeping us safe.The crazy, blood-soaked psychos behind 9/11 will do ANYTHING to stay out of court or jail for their many crimes and if that means 'ginning' up a war that leads to WWIII and total nuclear annihilation, they'd do it in a second to avoid prosecution or more fitting, dropping thru that trapdoor for their murders, thefts and traitorous actions.

    They don't give a fuck about you! said:
    August 5, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Okay let's get something straight. Have you wondered how billions can be spent on wars that the people do not want, while domestically the entire economy goes into bankruptcy where even social security that the people do want is being threatened with removal?It's simple. USA is a colony of Rothschild, now NWO, always has been. The only real use of America now is for cannon fodder (gentile solders). The congress was bought long along so all money spent goes to furthering the NWO agenda. It has nothing to do with the welfare of Americans.America is just a colony of Rothschild being used up to its last drip before scapping the whole project for a veritable new world order with one currency and one government and one world army.

    John Friend said:
    August 5, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Completely agree with James, kenny is the shit. And, of course, Greg is absolutely spot on. I think most people here get what's going on, except for the random comments simply stating no planes or video fakery is disinfo, and Fetzer is disinfo, and Gordon Duff is disinfo, and VT is disinfo blah blah blah. Let's get over that stuff already, and have serious discussions about these matters. Duff writes nonsense at times, VT's editing is terrible (there's ALWAYS grammatical errors for God's sake) but I think he does provide good info, as does VT in general. How can anyone seriously dispute that? Dr. Sabrosky has come out big time for what everyone here is talking about specifically at VT. Finally, I hope everyone here is seriously considering voting Equal Party this 2012 election year. Well, that is assuming martial law isn't declared by that point.

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    I think Lawson ran circles around Fetzer but thats kind of the point. Its like WWE. I think both may be fakes but I KNOW Fetzer and the no planers are. Poison pill.

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Duff promotes Sibel Edmonds and other limited hangout artists whose purpose is to preserve the "muslim hijackers" myth and protect Israel at all costs. He also regularly bans/censors people who question him or any of his lackeys.

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Fetzer has been muddying the waters for years. He did it with JFK and hes doing it now with 9/11 and sadly some people are still buying what he and his handlers are selling.

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    While Duff himself is highly suspect you are correct when you say VT provides us with some good info/articles. No doubt about that. Now go ask Duff why he promotes limited hangout like Edmonds and see how fast you get banned/censored.

    John Friend said:
    August 5, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    If anyone is still in doubt about video fakery and no planes on 9/11, please watch and read this from Killtown:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpkqomUc7Xs&feature=relatedhttp://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/05/why-they-didnt-use-planes-to-hit-wtc.htmlI completely disagree about Fetzer- the man is doing great research into 9/11, as has Killtown. Can anyone seriously watch that video and read that article and not be convinced about these subjects?

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    It is true that Putin and Mao were masons. That is correct. In looking at Russia however it is best to remember before and after the wall as being somewhat like BC and AD. When Putin was in New Zealand, Gregg Hallet in his book claims he was KGB disguised as the soviet minister of fisheries when in fact he was angling to have soviet nuclear submarines remain in the new Zealand trench to launch in case of nuclear war. It is also reported he had 3 doubles while there. Come to think of it, the one in the pic above doesn't look right either. Is it possible some people strive to rise as high in the masonic order simply to see what is going on? I would venture to say Putin or Mao knew much more about it than you or I. This might be a concept far out of the grasp of most westerners I would imagine. Mao did not act much like a knight of Malta in this instance. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/04/jews-and-japanese-imperialism/If Russia is now hand in glove with the NWO as is china please explain some things to me. 1. Why BRIC2.Why consolidation attempts in the stans3. Why would Russia get excited about missiles on their border with Poland? Why not just slap them in place and capitulate? 4. Why not just sell S300 missile batteries to Israel instead of Iran? You know get it over with. 5. Why did Russia selll Sukhoi bombers to Venezuela?6. Why is there even a struggle over gas pipelines with Europe trying to bring in gas from the Caspian that by passes Russia and Russia is seizing Abkhazia to prevent it? 7. Yes Russia "allows" supplies to go through certain areas for wars in Afghanistan. If you possibly thought a rival was fighting a useless no win war that would eventually bankrupt them, would you not help them out also?8. When a nato/US airbase was established in K-stan, Russia built themselves one just about 50 miles away and furnished it with backfire bombers. Why?There are certainly a lot of questions to be answered but it is not as black and white as some seem to think. (They are all in together theory ) I certainly don't have all the answers. Dub

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    No planes is just the latest ploy to divert from the obvious-the controlled demolition of the towers and the guilt of Israel. We know the names of many involved in 9/11 and those people, the Eisenbergs,Silversteins,Hauers,Lowys,Zakheims etc. of the world love it when we focus on things like "video fakery" instead of them. Or mini nukes. Or microwave weapons. You get it. Or maybe you dont.

    anon 1 said:
    August 5, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    anonymous at 8/5, 10:10 correct.re 9/11, prof griffin no shill."cognitive infiltration", david ray griffin. from the back cover: '"…cass sunstein co-authored an article containing a plan for the govt to prevent the spread of anti-govt "conspiracy theories," in which he advocated the use of anonymous govt agents to engage in "cognitive infiltration" of these groups in order to break them up. in this book, griffin focuses on the fact that sunstein's primary target is the 9/11 truth movement…"'professor griffin is no shill.

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    And getting back to Norway. It is a key player in the quest for northern oil riches and wasn't following the script. http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php?articleId=21706http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php?articleId=14970The Arctic is a flash point for a nuclear world war III and incidentally that is just what Cayce predicts, WWIII over a dispute in the Davis straits which could well become a a key oil shipping route. Russia is not sending a signal of come on in Mr. Rothschild and take this oil, we don't need it, we have enough at home. No doubt China is cheering the Russians on, the more oil Russia acquires, the more they can sell to China on the south end. Russia and Norway make the deal. Also remember Russia bought 30% of BP. Some are not happy with Norway. Maybe something happens there? Oops something did happen there. The EU needs Norway, Norway does not need the EU and is not a member by the way. Russia wants a partnership involving Norway, Finland and Iceland… a straight line sealing the Barent oil reserves. They are also courting Denmark, where Putin last time he was there asks, who gave NATO permission for war on Libya? It is also a place the Norway shooter called his buddies by phone before the tragic events in Norway. http://orientalreview.org/2011/01/21/russia-and-the-oil-gas-diplomacy-in-arctics-i/

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    I heard Dr. Griifin speak in Stockholm to 250 truthseekers.I listened, afterwards I went up and shook his hand.In my opinion he is not a shill in anyway whatsoever.Mouser

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    " the Norway shooter called his buddies* by phone"*Nygren – Mossad handler now on a kibbutz in israel.

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Countries are notorious for acting in their own interests. It is not totally surprising that Russia immediately after 911 offered their condolences and then in effect stated, yes there are terrorists running wild every where and proceeded to bomb Chechnya. It seems to be the bottom line of territory Russia is willing to give up after the collapse. So what was in the Russian national interest? Go on teevee and call bs or go after their own terrorists?Dub

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    So now if you are watching Rense, 3 NATO ships sunk and 15 military prisoners in custody. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmY9lDPorNIWho is providing Libya with this type capability?

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    It's 2011, I wont even debate planes.I agree with John Friend. DB Smith is not disino IMO. Fetzer seems to have an open door policy on his radio show. Because of his high public profile, Fetzer is risking a lot by agreeing with no plane theory. There is a reason that Simon Shack, Hoi.Polloi, Killtown, Ozzy Bin Oswald, and Stilldiggin' are made up names- they are too close to the truth.Phil Jayhan and lets roll forum has done a massive amount of research. . Jayhan and Shack and Fetzer look at ALL aspects of 911, Griffin and Gage and Bollyn do not- you cant ignore the vicsims, their compensation fund, Harley Guy and 'chopper five is anybody on?' and paid 'relatives' like Bob McIlvane'I lost my son, sniff, sniff'Fetzer, as head of scholars for 911 truth, adds a lot of academic legitimacy to no plane theory, and I agree with his conclusions- it was a media hoax. It may be his open door that raises the ? in some minds-eddy

    Anonymous said:
    August 5, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    After 'The War of the Worlds' radio hoax, Orson Wells at least had the decency to say: 'It was a hoax'-eddy

    zionist Rothschild's NWO solders said:
    August 6, 2011 at 7:18 am

    You will go along with the program. You will send your troops where we tell you, you will buy foreign products regardless of ethical considerations, you will stop supporting the vermin we are trying to eradicate, and under no circumstances will you threaten anyone. Otherwise we will bomb your offices and kill your children. We will do it on a famous anniversary, but it in such a way that no direct evidence leads back to us. We will do it in a way that shows your police are thoroughly compromised and no use to you at all. We will do it in a way that exacerbates tensions between Christians and Moslems. And we will do it in a way that lends credibility to those who would trash the best features of your open, democratic society. We will cover our tracks with a lame distraction which will confirm quite clearly — to those with eyes to see — that the entire world's "news" media are in our pocket. And most of your friends and neighbors — including many who should know better — will play along with it, if they show any interest at all. And then … ah, yes: then we will rejoice in your grief!Mossad

    The Onion said:
    August 6, 2011 at 8:36 am

    Drunken Ben Bernanke Tells Everyone At Neighborhood Bar How Screwed U.S. Economy Really IsAugust 3, 2011 | ISSUE 47•31The intoxicated Federal Reserve chairman informs bar patrons of the dangers of reckless spending.SEWARD, NE—Claiming he wasn't afraid to let everyone in attendance know about "the real mess we're in," Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke reportedly got drunk Tuesday and told everyone at Elwood's Corner Tavern about how absolutely fucked the U.S. economy actually is.Bernanke, who sources confirmed was "totally sloshed," arrived at the drinking establishment at approximately 5:30 p.m., ensconced himself upon a bar stool, and consumed several bottles of Miller High Life and a half-dozen shots of whiskey while loudly proclaiming to any patron who would listen that the economic outlook was "pretty goddamned awful if you want the God's honest truth.""Look, they don't want anyone except for the Washington, D.C. bigwigs to know how bad shit really is," said Bernanke, slurring his words as he spoke. "Mounting debt exacerbated—and not relieved—by unchecked consumption, spiraling interest rates, and the grim realities of an inevitable worldwide energy crisis are projected to leave our entire economy in the shitter for, like, a generation, man, I'm telling you."Enlarge ImageA drunken Bernanke attempts to find the Aerosmith song "Back In The Saddle" on the bar jukebox."And hell, as long as we're being honest, I might as well tell you that a truer estimate of the U.S. unemployment rate is actually up around 16 percent, with a 0.7 percent annual rate of economic growth if we're lucky—if we're lucky," continued Bernanke, nearly knocking a full beer over while gesturing with his hands. "Of course, if everybody knew that, it would likely cripple financial markets across the entire fucking globe, even in various emerging economies with self- sustaining growth."After launching into an extended 45-minute diatribe about shortsighted moves by "those bastards in Congress" that could potentially exacerbate the nation's already deeply troublesome budget imbalance, the Federal Reserve chairman reportedly bought a round of tequila shots for two customers he had just met who were seated on either side of him, announcing, "I love these guys."Numerous bar patrons slowly nodded in agreement as Bernanke went on to suggest the United States could pass three or four more stimulus packages and "it wouldn't even matter."

    The Onion Cont'd said:
    August 6, 2011 at 8:37 am

    "You think that's going to create long-term economic growth, let alone promote job creation?" Bernanke said. "We're way beyond that, my friend. There are no jobs, okay? There's nothing. I think that calls for another drink, don't you?"While using beer bottles and pretzel sticks in an attempt to explain to the bartender the importance of infusing $650 billion into the bond market, the inebriated Fed chairman nearly fell off his stool and had to be held up by the patron sitting next to him.Another bargoer confirmed Bernanke stood about 2 inches from her face and sprayed her with saliva, claiming inflation was going to "totally screw" consumer confidence and then asking if he could bum a smoke."Sure, we could hold down long-term interest rates and pursue a program of quantitative easing, but c'mon, we all know that's not going to make the slightest bit of difference when it comes to output, demand, or employment," Bernanke said before being told to "try to keep [his] voice down" by the bartender. "And trust me, with the value of the U.S. dollar in the toilet, import costs going through the roof, and numerous world governments unprepared for their own substantial debt burdens, shit's not looking too good for us abroad, either.""God, I'm so wasted," added Bernanke, resting his head on the bar.Later in the evening, Richard Kampman, a truck driver who was laid off in 2010, said Bernanke approached him in the men's restroom and attempted to strike up a conversation about various factors contributing to the current financial crisis."He stumbled up to the urinal and started mumbling on about the depressed housing sector or something," said Kampman, who claimed Bernanke had to use both hands on the wall to steady himself. "Then after a while he just sort of stopped and I couldn't tell if he was laughing or crying.""Then he puked all over the sink and the mirror," Kampman added.Customers at the bar told reporters the "shitfaced" and disruptive Bernanke refused to pay for his drinks with U.S. currency, claiming it was "worthless." Witnesses also confirmed that near the end of the evening, Bernanke put money into the jukebox and selected Dire Straits' "Money For Nothing" to play five times in a row."This is what it's all about," said Bernanke, who reportedly danced alone in the middle of the dark tavern. "Fucking love this song."

    No more zionist MSM bullshit thank you said:
    August 6, 2011 at 11:18 am

    The truth:A Nato heliocopter carrying 38 US and Afghan soldiers was attacking an Afghan stronghold of Afghan civilians and Taliban. The Nato forces killed 8 in the stronghold before those being attacked by Nato returned fire in the form of a RPG which took out and crashed the attacking Nato heliocopter.The zionist MSM spin: A group of insurgent Taliban took 8 Afghan civilian hostage. A Nato heliocopter carrying US and Afghan soldiers was ruthlessly shot down by the terrorist Taliban as the Nato forces tried to free the hostages. Besides 38 dying in the heliocopter crash the 8 civilian hostages also were killed by the Taliban.Same event, two stories. One the truth about zionist Nato agression and one from the total bullshit from the zionist MSM.Had enough yet?

    Anonymous said:
    August 6, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Maverick politician Andrzej Lepper commits suicide?http://forsecurity.org/maverick-politician-andrzej-lepper-commits-suicide

    Get Mad! Throw out your TalmudVisions! said:
    August 6, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    ABCBCNNBCBBCBS = MSM = Mostly Shit Media

    w said:
    August 6, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    A sincere thanks to James for the mention of honor (which in truth I neither seek nor deserve) and to everyone else here. Although every and each of us have have our small differences, we all agree on the common enemy, that hydra-headed monster called Zionism or, as Kenny says here, we're all on the same side with what really counts. Having said that, I feel I should not leave brother Dub's questions unanswered, without going to a lengthy debate (i.e. time consuming to answer, research and link to every question,) I would like to give a general but brief summary that -if needed- can be researched. I believe everyone here knows the Zionist power elite effectively control and operate at many levels. That Zionism is the underlying ideology of the current dominant culture must not be forgotten, nor the economic force that supports it. Banking is effectively dominated by forces, most if not all are Jewish. and what can be perceived in so-called geopolitics is a series of power interests that intermesh in such a manner that there can never be perceived a commonality of interests, so that tensions and contradictions abound while the common goals of greed and power unify, (Conflicts real or imaginary are created before hand, the idea of half a dozen super powers competing and dictating to other nations is also a great boost to those cause-effects [33rd Degree insider Ex-Mason: Putin's conflict with the Rothschilds is a charade. Putin is also Illuminati]Question 1-7 are related to 'Arms race' really, let's call a spade a spade 'Arms race' equals 'Arms Sales' 'Arms race' are the means to justify 'Arms Sales' and vice versa (Venezuela's Chavez is also known to be freemason). Lastly and it is important, follow the money all the way to the Rothschilds bank whose coffers are full from regional and international conflicts. What is more astonishing than THE Bank financing the Bolsheviks as well as financing Herr Hitler? (Sutton etc)

    Anonymous said:
    August 6, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    W;You seem well read and cognisant.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8682892/US-and-Russia-issue-warning-for-Syrias-Bashar-al-Assad.htmlI have a few points and then sort of a few questions for you.-Obama is a puppet of the zionist Rothschild NWO where Nato is now the military arm of hegemony.-(according to you) Russian primeminister Putin is a 33 degree mason just playing the part of antagonist to Rothschild's world takeover.-Russian foreign minister Rogozin is stating Assad and Syria will be attacked by Nato this autum.-Russian president Medvedev is warning that Russia and the USA, through the so called UN security council, are planning to attack Syria.-An attack by Nato with the blessing and/or help of Russia will establish a beach head to then attack Iran.-The UN security council is the pc correct form of the establishment of a one world government.Here are my questions W or anyone:Are Russia and the USA agreed to attack Syria and then to attack Iran together? Are they both now working through the UN/NWO apparatus to enable Rothschild to establish a one world order?If Russia is going to help Nato to attack Iran, is the third world war just going to be skipped?How will China react to the total middle east take over of oil by Nato and Russia?Are we closer to a UN/NWO run by zionist oligarcs now more than ever?Mouser

    WRH said:
    August 6, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    It has just been announced that the Seals who killed some poor schmuck last May identified by the White House as Osama Bin Laden (the real bin Laden died in December 2001) all died in the crash of a Chinook Helicopter in Afghanistan today. This is reminiscent of when Former Clinton body guards privy to his indiscretions were all killed at Waco, shot by their own forces.So it looks like Obama may be cleaning house as he heads into the next election season by murdering off anyone who could publicly expose the lies and hoaxes he has used to cling to power.

    Anonymous said:
    August 6, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    I suppose we will just have to wait and see what happens. A large part of the equation is how many back door chips did China manage to move into place within U.S. defense technology and how much of an effect increasing solar particle plays when it comes to satellites and computer chips. In one scenario, WWIII could be fought with guns and clubs, especially in larger cities. The nation which has prepared best for such an eventuality holds a full house. We will also have to see what the polar axis does. In the last 10 years it has moved 50% of the distance it covered in the last 50 years and is now in Russia. The geometrical progression shows no signs of abatement either. There are reasons for such underground cities as Russia's Yamatau Mountain and Norway's doomsday seed vault. The aspirations of both mice and men often fail. DubWV sunrel

    james said:
    August 6, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    I would like to thank DublinMick for taking the time to compile the consistently excellent comments he has left on this post.

    … each of the five sons were dispatched to a major city in Europe to establish a branch of the Rothschild banking firm.Son #1 – Amschel – Remained in Frankfurt and propelled Germany to financial success under Bismarck.Son #2 – Salomon – Went to Vienna, Austria. he became a leader in the Austria-Hungary Empire.Son #3 – Nathan Mayer – Went to England where he took control of the Bank of England.Son #4 – Carl – Went to Naples where he became the most powerful man in Italy through his banking skills.Son #5 – James Jacob – Went to Paris where he established the central bank. He was credited with dominating the financial destiny of the nation of France.By 1850, the House of Rothschild represented more wealth than all the families of Europe.• Nathan Rothschild was an observer on the day the Duke of Wellington defeated Napoleon at Waterloo, Belgium. He knew that with this information he could make a fortune. He later paid a sailor a big fee to take him across the English Channel in bad weather. The news of Napoleon's defeat would take a while to hit England. When Nathan arrived in London, he began selling securities and bonds in a panic. The other investors were deceived into believing that Napoleon won the war and was eyeing England so they began to sell their securities too. What they were unaware of is that Rothschild's agents were buying all the securities that were being sold in panic. In one day, the Rothschild fortune grew by one million pounds. They literally bought control of England for a few cents on the dollar. The same way the Rockefeller's went into Japan after World War 2 and bought everything 10 cents on the dollar. SONY=Standard Oil New York, a Rockefeller Company.Frederick Morton wrote in his book, The Rothschilds: "…the wealth of the Rothschilds consists of the bankruptcy of nations."There were other wealthy families in Europe and America which were allowed to join "the international banking club" such as John D. Rockefeller and John Pierpont Morgan.

    kenny's sideshow said:
    August 7, 2011 at 2:35 am

    I've been out of pocket the last few days and I'm encouraged to come back here and find a most intelligent and civil dialog. I want to once again say thanks for the contributions. It's one of the best threads we've had here. The reports that the seals killed in the Afghanistan copter crash may be the same ones who participated in the fake bin Laden assassination and are now silenced could be a very important story. I need some more confirmation, if there is any.CNN has reported this but we know who controls their narrative."The majority of the Navy SEALs who died belonged to the same covert unit that conducted the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in May, though they were not the same men, the military official said." If anyone comes across something more definitive please let us know.

    the weekly false flag said:
    August 7, 2011 at 2:59 am

    Something rotten in Denmark with the Seal Team crashing in helicopter.

    Anonymous said:
    August 7, 2011 at 7:53 am

    GREAT blog Kenny!"…the wealth of the Rothschilds consists of the bankruptcy of nations."I am going to venture out on economic ice and state that this whole global economic crisis is being orchestrated by Rothschild in order to bankrupt all western fiat currencies who use the US dollar as the world reserve currency in order to force the whole world to accept the Rothschild owned SDRs.In the same way as the Rothschild IMF has been bankrupting third world countries for decades in order to get their ressources at pennies on the dollar, Rothschild has intentionally put the USA and other western countries into debt to each other and to the 193 central banks which Rothschild owns. All the debt ultimately traces back to usury where there never was an eleveth marble so each country had to continually borrow more money evey year to "balance" their budgets.By having the world reserve fiat currency tank, Rothschild is now poised to implement his SDRs – otherwise everyone loses the equity in their homes and more.The problem is that to allow a private group to issue and control the money supply of the world will lead to the Rothschild financial oligarchs controlling not only the money but also all the governments of the world.It will be a form of banking one world government where everyone using the SDRs will be forced to accept whatever Rothschild decides.This is dictatorship, and it goes against every single thing that freedom and the pursuit of happiness strives for.Benjamin Franklin was right about the threat of the banks to liberty – only he didn't envision the threat would be for total global dominance.If not stopped. Rothschild and his zionist accomplices are going to try to take control of the whole world through debt.The Bible states usury is evil. Too bad we haven't benn listening.Too late? Never say never.

    OBL died Dec.2001 of natuaral causes said:
    August 7, 2011 at 10:14 am

    'All the bad-asses who killed OBL are dead.'Kenny, read the last few sentences of this article.http://beforeitsnews.com/story/917/461/Inside_Scoop:_31_US_Occupiers_Killed_in_Afghanistan_and_Much_More.htmlCheers

    Rothschild zionism exposing itself as evil said:
    August 7, 2011 at 10:27 am

    You know the game at the arcade called 'Whack-a-mole' where the player atempts to keep down up-popping moles who won't stay down?Kind of like the zionist corrupt system running amuck now. Up pops a truth bit and whack the zio-system tries to whack it down with zio-owned media spin or often outight murder since deadmen don't talk.The zio-systems problem is that there are just too many moles of truth popping up simltaneously to be whacked even by Nato and Mossad put together.The TalmudVision is now gagging on its own spin – the latest being all the Seals who got OBL suddenly died all together.Zio whack-a-mole of truth is getting out of control. John Q. Public is waking up to the whacking ruckus.Change is coming for the zio game of spin, lies and murder.

    Anonymous said:
    August 7, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Looks like they are killing all involved in the "Bin Laden murder" fraud. How utterly unsurprising.

    musique said:
    August 7, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Hmmmm, Who could've killed those brave & heroic been lied in assassins? Probably it was ""evil guy Allah" himself to blame. Isn't time to invade rest of the muzzie world full with juudaic revenge/ vengeance?

    Anonymous said:
    August 7, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    May I suggest that you throw the money changers out of the temple, repudiate all debt to them, and substitute national treasury notes distributed by a mechanism of social credit. http://www.citizensamericaparty.org/socialcredit2.htmwhich is intended eventually to become a stake through the heart of the vampire Money Power.Dick EastmanYakima, Washington

    Peter said:
    August 7, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    98 comments? YIPES!!I am a real Johnnie Come Lately.To paraphrase Putin, it would be impossssible to keep a lid on such a thing.(Imposible to conceal).Geez, hasn't the JFK assassination been succesfully concealed for almost 50 years?Yeah, definitely tongue and cheek from Vlad.

    w said:
    August 8, 2011 at 1:42 am

    'Here are my questions W or anyone: Are Russia and the USA agreed to attack Syria' The short answer is yes. The Neocons -as you know- had them on their list of "Axis of Evil" Whether Russia win join in the attacks is irrelevant. Let me begin by saying that PNAC's Manifesto is the mini version of the Protocols of Zion but only in its outward manifestation. The key to unmasking this is to compare both manifestos. The ideas contained within the Protocols themselves come from the messianic writings of Shabbatai Tzvi which were based upon the Noachide laws of the Talmud. Shabataian Frankists, controls organized Jewry, including Zionism and Freemasonry. They began as followers of Shabatai Zvi and later Jacob Frank. They believe Shabatai was the Messiah (God) and his soul has transmigrated down to the Rothschild dynasty, who are now the "king of the Jews." Freemasonry allowed the Sabbatean sympathizers to live an elite yet mystical and meaningful life working towards the establishment of a one-world government based upon the Universal Yahwehism preached by Shabbetai Tzvi and his followers particularly Jacob Frank, who would have a great impact on the inner core of Freemasonry, known as the Illuminati. Freemasonry would become the hidden force behind events like the French and American revolutions, the creations of the UN & Israel, both World Wars (including the Holocaust!), and the assassinations of the Kennedy brothers who, together with their father, tried to thwart the efforts of the network on American soil.Sabbatean/Frankists, also referred to as the Cult of the All-Seeing Eye are political and religious chameleons. They are everywhere. If you ever want a reminder, just pull out a dollar bill. Everywhere where there is power. "When war erupts in the world, you will know and understand why I came to this world."–Saying from the Book of the Words of the Lord Jacob Frank (Shak)The World War II era is a prime example of this Cult . The following leaders were members of the Cult of the All-Seeing Eye (Sabbatean/Frankists): Franklin D. Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, Josef Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Eugenio Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) Fransisco Franco, Benito Mussilini, Hirohito, Mao Tse-Tung, not mentioned are the untold scores of bankers, lawyers and politicians behind these men dictating their every move. Conspiracy? Oh yes. Conspiracy. One which will go on for the next thousand years. It's unstoppable. At best you can understand what is going on. But…According to their messianic system, Redemption requires that the Rothschilds become God, i.e. king of the world. This will see the sacrifice of two thirds of all Jews as predicted by Zachariah [13;8-9] and the destruction and enslavement of the rest of mankind. The Shabataians believe their king is duty bound to restore the Jews to Israel and exterminate the Gentiles. They believe the Messiah won't appear until the world succumbs to evil and are determined to make this prophecy self-fulfilling. Thus evil is good. War is peace etc..Remind you of the evangelicals? Yes they are Zionists, yes the heads of these sects were Freemasons, Frankists.. Shabbetai Tzvi and his followers all the way down to the 21st century believe in this verse found in Deuteronomy:(Continued below)

    w said:
    August 8, 2011 at 1:44 am

    "the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. " (7-16) "And all people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of the LORD; and they shall be afraid of you." (28:10)and Genesis 25;23, and 27;38-41 which promises the Gentiles to the Jews as their slaves and slave soldiers, and gives an incentive to exterminate the Gentiles simply because they dare resent their fate.Rothschilds' plan to establish a world government in Jerusalem with them as king ran into trouble. He didn't have the support of all Jews [I often tell people that the Nazis were Zionists but the brainwashing is so deep I keep talking to myself] Jewish support was the only thing lacking. He could bankrupt nations, he could bring Russia to ruins, he could even buy the Pope but the only way to force Jews in large numbers to Palestine was to put Hitler (Sutton) and Stalin (Sutton) in power and persecute Jews on a massive and unprecedented scale. IT worked. But there's a major problem to tackle now: The Muslim world! Down goes the WTC (Rothschilds. Rockefellers were both watching the towers crumble to dust) and the present Crusade and Crusade it is no matter what anyone says. Make no mistake it is a religious war between a powerful Satanic Sect and a divided weak Muslim world. On the one hand we have Wars (i.e. 'War on Terror') that are destroying and dividing Arab/Muslim lands in the hope o of making them and others to submit to their satanic agenda, while on the other hand, Islamophobia, neonazis movements etc…etc… are gathering more and more support across the globe for the mother of all crusades, a ruse called the "Clash of civilization," Armageddon. Yes they gave you WWI and WWII, yes they will cause WWIII. There's no escape from that one because the Muslims will never submit. Islam means submission to God alone and none else besides God. and that's the big BUT I mention above. They will fail. They will be destroyed…

    w said:
    August 8, 2011 at 2:06 am

    Addendum to above in connection to the CrusadesMichael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln spent 12 years researching "The Holy Grail." In their book "The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail," the authors showed without a shadow of doubt that Jews were behind the Crusades and had originated in the ("Prieury of Sion") "Priory of Zion" in France. They stopped short of saying the Templars were Jews but throughout the whole book readers were shown the secret societies of the time that gave us the Templars were actually jews

    John Friend said:
    August 12, 2011 at 2:37 am

    Knowledgeable sources have confirmed Putin is with the bad guys:http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com/2011/08/10/the-piper-report-aug-10-2011/

    No More Myths said:
    August 12, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Here's some interesting reading from the site of Igor V. Artemov who Michael Collins Piper interviews in the podcast at the link provided by John Friend at 9:37 PM:Why Putin is an enemy of Russian nation?By Andrey Savelievhttp://rusallnatunion.co.cc/2011/01/andrey-saveliev-why-putin-is-an-enemy-of-russian-nation-2/

Leave a reply to Anonymous Cancel reply