An Anti-War Secessionist Movement

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The concept of secession may be in its infancy but it is a message to be added to the mix. Coming from an unlikely source, Time covers the Vermont anti-empire movement. Although it’s a fair article, don’t underestimate the MSM to not have an agenda behind the news. After all, it was Time that named the criminal Ben Bernanke as ‘Person of the Year.’

Excerpts from The Secessionist Campaign for the Republic of Vermont.

On Jan. 15, in the state capital of Montpelier, nine candidates for statewide office gathered in a tiny room at the Capitol Plaza Hotel, to announce they wanted a divorce from the United States of America. “For the first time in over 150 years, secession and political independence from the U.S. will be front and center in a statewide New England political campaign,” said Thomas Naylor, 73, one of the leaders of the campaign.A former Duke University economics professor, Naylor heads up the Second Vermont Republic, which he describes as “left-libertarian, anti-big government, anti-empire, antiwar, with small is beautiful as our guiding philosophy.” The group advocates the peaceful secession of Vermont.

According to a 2007 poll, they have support from at least 13% of state voters. The campaign slogan, Naylor told me, is “Imagine Free Vermont.” In his fondest imaginings, Naylor said, Vermonters would not be “forced to participate in killing women and children in the Middle East.”

Second Vermont Republic’s gubernatorial candidate is Dennis Steele, 42, who says that, if elected, his first act in office would be to bring home Vermont’s National Guard from overseas deployments. “I see my kids going off to fight in wars for empire 10, 15, 20 years from now.”

“People in Vermont in general are very antiwar, and all their faith was in Obama to end the wars. I ask people, ‘Did you get the change you wanted?’ They can’t even look you in the eyes. We live in a nation that is asleep at the wheel and where the hearts are growing cold like ice.”Steele and the secessionists have nothing but contempt for Vermont Senators Bernie Sanders and Patrick Leahy, who are otherwise considered among the most liberal members of Congress. “They’ve done nothing to stop the wars,” says Steele flatly. Thomas Naylor was more pointed: “Every time a Vermonter serving in the National Guard gets deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, likely to be hurt or killed, Bernie and Patrick are there to commemorate the departure and have pictures taken.”

The U.S. government, they said, was an immoral enterprise — engaged in imperial wars, propping up corrupt bankers and supersized corporations, crushing small businessmen, plundering the tax-base for corporate welfare, snooping on the private lives of citizens — and they wanted no more part of it. “The gods of the empire,” Steele told the room, “are not the gods of Vermont.”

An independent Vermont, the group believes, would expolit its already highly developed local small-scale agriculture, its “locavore” farm exchanges, with a tax structure reformed to incentivize small business and industry (and to make life difficult for large out-of-state corporations). By 2020, they foresee Vermont producing at least 75% of its own electricity and heat, using wind-, solar-, biomass- and hydro-power. They want to establish a Bank of Vermont owned by the people of Vermont — freed from the arbitrary controls of central bankers — as well as a local alternative currency, with Vermont pension and operating funds invested not in Wall Street but in locally owned financial institutions. “We favor devolution of political power from the state back to local communities, making the governing structure for towns, schools, hospitals and social services much like that of small, decentralized states like Switzerland,” declares the group’s “21st Century Statement of Principles.” {more}

Veterans Today weighs in with It begins. An Anti-War Secessionist Movement is alive.

This is what happens when our nation continually engages in these ridiculous and unnecessary wars overseas without taking into account the wishes of her citizens.

This is what happens when Amerika places money and potential power grabs overseas ahead of the wishes of the people and instead caters to the whims of the military industrial complex, the emerging market manipulators, the war industry captains, the energy cartels and any other group that the Supreme Court has now given the powers of citizenship.

It is no accident that this is now public knowledge throughout the nation after the Supreme Court decided that money rules our political system.

No it does not.

We now face serious attempts at secession from citizens who have no intention of being ignored by the central government and its manipulting, puppet-master elites who constantly have access to the levers of power, regardless of the will of the citizens at large.

Fascism in our country is now facing a viable and growing citizens’ anti-war and secessionist movement willing to finance candidates who support state secession and an anti-war platform.

We are talking about civil war ultimately if this carries through to its logical end.

Does Washington D.C. understand this?

This is the ultimate result of generation upon generation of rule by the elites, rule by the Robber Barons, rule of money and its supposed power over the will of the people. One man, one vote cannot be ignored forever.

Money and its power is meaningless in this situation if civil war ensues because aware citizens realize that they have been preempted by money, power, position and ignorance of what it means to carry the burdens of working class America.

Don’t anybody ever say that I did not say for years, “I told you so!”

The chickens are coming home to roost. {more}

Michael Chute …..

“We ain’t right wing, we ain’t left wing. We’re trying to get the folks to see the problem ain’t left versus right, it’s up versus down.” He uses a tool analogy. “A Republican is a standard screw,” said Chute. “A Democrat is a Philips screws. So whichever way you vote you get the screw.”

The Second Vermont Republic is a nonviolent citizens’ network and think tank opposed to the tyranny of Corporate America and the U.S. government, and committed to the peaceful return of Vermont to its status as an independent republic and more broadly the dissolution of the Union. {more}


Ron Paul – "secession is a very good principle"

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Ron Paul on CNN April 21, 2009

Rick Perry – Pandering Prick

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By now most everyone has heard of Texas governor Rick Perry’s hints of secession at the Austin ‘tea party.’

Everyone from The New York Times to Kurt Nimmo to Mike Adams has chimed in on the controversy.

Not to say that secession will not be a viable option at some point in the future but it won’t be led by neocon fake individual and state sovereignty shills such as Perry.

I have a suggestion Mr. Perry.
Get your attorney general to issue an indictment and then deputize your good buddy Chuck Norris and have him lead the Texas Rangers to arrest G.W. Bush for war crimes and crimes against humanity. That would give you credibility and make for a terrific media event.

Perhaps Perry’s independent Texas would become a partner of Israel. He would need allies for his new ‘country’ and as a ‘Friend of Zion,’ the partnerships are already in place.

In June 2007, Perry traveled to Israel courtesy of Global Capital Associates. While in Israel he received the “Friend of Zion” award, and met with Ehud Olmert and Benjamin Netanyahu. Source Watch


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Shimon Peres, President of the State of Israel, speaking to Chamber Chairman Terry Anderson

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More change we can believe in? This time from the real ‘right wing extremists’ and lovers of all things war.

Secessionist Talk

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There’s been a lot of chatter lately, both real and some propagandizing fear tactics, about the US government preparing for civil unrest. Hunger, homelessness and anger at the administration, Congress, corporations and bankers could provoke some people to do desperate things.

But to what end would the civil unrest be directed to. Replacing all members of the federal government, and with what or who? Removing the corrupt banking system? Restoring states sovereign rights?

Some folks think the time is coming to break away from the centralized dictatorship and move towards regional independence. In short, secession. Could this be done peacefully? The federal powers won’t give up control easily. Military might and possibly false flag attacks would be options to prevent secession.

Is it too late to ‘fix’ the federal government and creating decentralized regional alliances is the only hope? It would take honesty. Do we still have enough of that in our current world?
A possible scenario?

Secessionist group advocates independence for the Southern states

March 26, 2009

League of the South, secessionist group, starting local chapter

The group says the federal government has overstepped its constitutional bounds for too long. It would be impossible to reign in the government now, so secession is the only option.

Anniston Star | Mar 25, 2009

By About Graham Milldrum

A group advocating independence for the South is starting a local chapter with a dinner Thursday in Anniston.

The national president of the League of the South, a secessionist group, will speak at the local group’s founding meeting at the Anniston Western Sizzlin’.

Michael Hill founded the group in 1994. He said the group plans to have a chapter in every county in the state.

The local chapter will be named the John C. Calhoun Chapter, after the South Carolina senator the county is named for.

The group says the federal government has overstepped its constitutional bounds for too long. It would be impossible to reign in the government now, so secession is the only option, said Josh Doggrell of Saks, president of the local chapter.

They seek a return to a Jeffersonian democracy, one of a smaller, less-active federal government.

“I don’t believe we live in a republic. I believe we live in an empire,” Doggrell said.

His group is advertising in a low-pressure, word-of-mouth, magazine and pamphlet campaign, he said, adding that he mailed invitations to the approximately 10 local league members as well.

Doggrell said he expects the meeting will be small, like most founding meetings.

The league was labeled a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center in 2000. League of the South denies the charge. Doggrell said he considers the label by the group a “badge of honor,” since it comes from such a liberal group.

Source: Aftermath News


The Legal Issues of Secession as a Legitimate Recourse of the States

Secession is a term and a concept that holds various and differing connotations to many individuals. It is an idea seldom thought about by most Americans in our day. Those that have some familiarity with the term generally associate it primarily with the War of 1861-1865. To the majority the concept of secession is a far away notion, little understood and even less thought of as a practical concept applicable to our current political arrangement. After all, most Americans believe that whatever secession was all about the issue must have been settled when the forces of the Union defeated the South.

This treatment of secession is one dimensional and flawed. Most Americans would agree that it is impossible, nay unjust, to settle matters of legal principle through the use of force. On the schoolyard we do not reward the bully that is stronger than his fellows by accepting that his point of view must be right just because he is stronger. We do not accept this in our system of civil law. A mere individual with a right and just cause can and often does prevail against large and powerful corporations on points of justice and legality. It seems un-American to simply accept that a question as powerful as the nature of the compact that holds the Union together might be answered in no other way than force.

Much more here:
Secession as a Legitimate Recourse of the States

Ladies and Gentlemen, there was a time not too long ago when I would have argued, nay, slapped the living hell out of anyone that would have suggested that a state would be legal and correct in attempting an act of secession from the Union of the United States of America. The legality of secession has long been a point of contention among patriots.

I personally thought such an act, in modern times, was best described as an act of treason. I am not convinced that I was wrong! I would prefer to see the United States remain just that, UNITED, but when the federal government ceases to govern, and attempts to expand their powers, greatly expand, and those powers are nothing more than overbearing attempts at full control of the American people and the forcing OF the American people into a government of sheer socialism, it is now time for the American people to act and take this nation back from the brink of disaster, OR, it is time for the individual states to exercise their STATES RIGHTS and LEAVE this unholy debacle that was once the United States of America!

Perhaps the best argument against the legality of secession is the one that rests upon secession being an “insurrection.” Section VIII of Article 1 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to call forth the militia to “suppress insurrections.” However, many people would argue that secession is not an insurrection. They see secession as the withdrawal of recognition of an authority as lawful rather than the refusal to obey recognized lawful authority. In addition, secession is not in itself an aggressive action taken against the residue of states left within the Union. It is a point often overlooked, but some states that seceded during the Civil War are very proud of the fact that they did not declare war – or fight an offensive war – against the Union, but only fought a defensive war in order to be able to govern themselves as they saw fit. Northerners should remember this if they wish to understand the thinking of many in the South. SOURCE: The Legality of Secession

There are many that seem to believe that secession is an act against the constitution of the United States, an act of insurrection. Under that interpretation I am sure the United States could take action to preserve the Union.

I don’t know that the current administration would have the guts TO take action, I am more of the belief that *The One* would want to discuss it with Russia and Iran 1st, and then offer us some type of missile shield assurance. Yes, that IS sarcasm!

The U.S. Constitution does not expressly recognize or deny a right of secession. Accordingly, the argument for a right of unilateral secession begins (and pretty much ends) with a claim about the very nature of the Constitution.

That document, by the terms of its Article VII, only obtained legal force through the ratification by nine states, and then only in the states so ratifying it. Because the Constitution derived its initial force from the voluntary act of consent by the sovereign states, secessionists argued, a state could voluntarily and unilaterally withdraw its consent from the Union.

In this view, the Constitution is a kind of multilateral treaty, which derives its legal effect from the consent of the sovereign parties to it. Just as sovereign nations can withdraw from a treaty, so too can the sovereign states withdraw from the Union. SOURCE: Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede?

I am NOT a constitutional scholar, I don’t claim to be, but there is a vein of dissatisfaction ripping through this nation the likes of which we have never seen. Many states, not just Texas, are making an effort to establish their sovereignty for the United States.

Twenty states standing up to the federal government and demanding a return to constitutional principles is a great start, but it remains to be seen whether legislatures and governors are brave enough or angry enough to follow through. As the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress push for more expansion of federal power and spending that may help provide the motivation needed for the sovereignty movement to take off. SOURCE: State Sovereignty Movement Quietly Growing

I don’t know if this sovereignty movement will result in calls for secession, but it well could, and for the 1st time in my 55 years I am honestly looking into the possibility of making secession a viable option in this great state of Texas!

Source: TexasFred’s

Also see:

League of the South

American Secession Project

The Middlebury Institute

Current North American Secessionist Groups